To Mike McDole - Thank You for a Great Recipe

[TimmyR]

There's lots of room on the train. The beer is quite tasty on board. I am a frequent traveler here and on the JZ Bandwagon.

Cheers to the Brewing Network.

[pdbutts]

I am thinking of brewing this beer on Saturday. The only hic-up is that I do not have any Pilsner malt. I have both Canadian 2-row and Golden Promise. I know I won't get the degree of layering that the Pilsner malt would add but how about swapping the Golden Promise for Pilsner, maybe even add a 1/2 lb of Victory for a bit of biscuit flavor?

[TimmyR]

My two-cents would be to just use 2-row and see how it goes & take notes. It'll still be great.

[TastyMcD]

Timmy is right, you can make the beer with all two-row in the base. The only issue with that is that this beer is all about that 23% Pilsner. I've encouraged people to use a variety of hop bills. I use a "Pliny" like hop bill because the beer has origins in Pliny. (Another story). My experience with the beer has been that it wants to attenuate too low which I attribute to the additional enzymes provided by the Pilsner malt. So I mash at 154F to decrease the fermentability. If you go with all two-row in the base, I'd lower the mash temp to more like 150-151F.

Tasty

[TimmyR]

Timmy is right, you can make the beer with all two-row in the base. The only issue with that is that this beer is all about that 23% Pilsner. I've encouraged people to use a variety of hop bills. I use a "Pliny" like hop bill because the beer has origins in Pliny. (Another story). My experience with the beer has been that it wants to attenuate too low which I attribute to the additional enzymes provided by the Pilsner malt. So I mash at 154F to decrease the fermentability. If you go with all two-row in the base, I'd lower the mash temp to more like 150-151F.

Tasty

Great point Tasty. I am planning my next iteration of this recipe with some heavy-handed use of Citra. I also like this recipe with WLP007 which I have found slightly mutes the hops in some ways and brings some fruity aromas forward in other ways.

At Siebel this week and next so it'll be a while before I brew it again. Maybe I'll call in on Sunday if you guys are broadcasting. Back to class.

[bkov]

what do you think of using the grainbill and hop schedule for a 5g batch instead of 10g to make it a ipa?

[pdbutts]

I brewed this beer last Saturday and today I transfered it to the secondary for dry hopping. I used my usual method of adding the hops to the secondary and then racking the beer on top. In the future I will think twice about doing this as something that has never happened before happened tonight. I use Star San as my sanitizer and as I was racking the beer the residual StarSan started to foam up more than I would have expected. Sadly an unknown portion of the dryhops ended up coming out of the carboy along with the foam. There still seems to be a hefty dryhop in the carboy but I am thinking about adding a bit more of each after 2 or 3 days. Maybe a total of 1/2 oz total between the three hops varieties at a 1:1:2 ratio.