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I'm on my fourth recipe from Brewing Classic Styles and was wondering if I can mooch off of the hard work of others by getting the Beersmith files for all the recipes. After having input about 8 of them, I'm looking to be lazy. So...

Additional question regarding Beersmith - I've noticed that when I input a recipe into Beersmith that the gravity readings given in the book and what are in Beersmith are always off. For instance, I just did the weizenbock and the books stated 1.081 for OG, Beersmith said 1.097.

Your efficiency in beersmith is prob set higher higher than 70% which what all the recipes in bcs are calculated to.

You might try searching the forums over at BeerSmith. This may help too...

http://www.winning-homebrew.com/recipe-database.html

There was a post in the Beersmith forum about not posting the recipes because they are copyrighted. I know that they are the recipes of Jamil & Jon but copyrighted? I can understand the authors not wanting it to be so easy to just get the recipes and not buy the book but just the recipe won't give you all the info you need, generally.

I'm just lazy, frankly, and it takes way too long to copy the recipes from the book to Beersmith. Since I bought the book and have the recipes I think I should have access to the recipes in digital form, so to speak.

snowman156 wrote:There was a post in the Beersmith forum about not posting the recipes because they are copyrighted. I know that they are the recipes of Jamil & Jon but copyrighted?

All information from cover to cover is protected by copyright by the Brewers Association.

snowman156 wrote: I'm just lazy, frankly, and it takes way too long to copy the recipes from the book to Beersmith. Since I bought the book and have the recipes I think I should have access to the recipes in digital form, so to speak.

It doesn't really take that long to enter in a few grains, some hops, a yeast strain, mash temp and fermentation temp. If you compare entering a recipe into Beersmith versus the amount of time and effort it takes to brew a batch from start to finish, this should be no problem. It took over 8 years of brewing and research to put together BCS and chances are if all the recipes were floating around the internet there would be a lot of people in the future who would not buy the book despite the fact they are missing out on background info on the recipes.

All information from cover to cover is protected by copyright by the Brewers Association.

The book is copyrighted, not the recipes. Recipes cannot be copyrighted. http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html

It doesn't really take that long to enter in a few grains, some hops, a yeast strain, mash temp and fermentation temp. If you compare entering a recipe into Beersmith versus the amount of time and effort it takes to brew a batch from start to finish, this should be no problem. It took over 8 years of brewing and research to put together BCS and chances are if all the recipes were floating around the internet there would be a lot of people in the future who would not buy the book despite the fact they are missing out on background info on the recipes.

As Jamil would say...."Here's the thing..." I do see your point and agree somewhat. The thing is, I bought the book. This is me compensating the authors for writing the book. If there was file pack with all the recipes, I'd pay for it but it doesn't exist, commercially anyway. If I was asking for a pdf of the book, that would be different. In this particular case, the recipes are not very helpful without the background and brew notes from the book.

Regarding entering the recipes into BS, it takes me 10-15 minutes per recipe. Considering that BS is clunky to use, has endless lists to scroll through and requires you to interpret much of the mash info from a recipe in a book to the software, it does take some time. My whole point is why do it manually when I can just download the recipes? Why do anything manually when you can do the same thing with the same result automatically?

Many (if not all) of these recipes are already out there on the net, just not in bsmx or bsm or xml format.

Someone on Homebrewtalk.com did the first 50 recipes in Beersmith format and said he would be working on the rest. I downloaded them and they seem to be right.

I also have the book and wouldn't have downloaded them if I didn't.

I'll see if I can post the link later...right now I have to leave for work.

Nevermind. I just found the post on HBT and the BA sent an email asking them to remove them.