Thoughts, Suggestions, Ideas?

[Mylo]

You might want to think about your Hops. I don't think that you're using enough to be considered an IPA...

What the HELL?!?? did you rob a hop shipment or something? Wait, what does that actually work out to be... about 4.5 ounces?

Never mind.

Yeah, 3 grams is only 1/4 ounce. Ask me how I know....

Here's some first thoughts, Badrock. I'm not really sure how well the Simcoe and Amarillo will work together. They are both very powerful flavors that, for me, are diametrically opposed. Simcoe is spicy and piney, while the Amarillo is floral and citrusey. The two together might muddy it up to a generic hop flavor. I might be inclined to try all Simcoe on this one to support the spicyness of the rye. That's just my opinion.

I don't think you'd have to boil for 90 min in this case (no pilsner malt). You are going to get a bit of carmelization - however, it might be a nice compliement to the rye and the hops - and the bigger mouthfeel that you seem to be shooting for.

You are on your own with that Ringworm yeast... Never used it before. May be good, may be bad. I think you'd also be fine with WLP001.... Cal Ale, BABY! Whatever you use - get a nice big pitch. I'd recommend a tight 68 degrees.

Good name... although Beevo might call it "Spic Keasy, Rye?" !!!

PROST!


Mylo

[Bugeater]

Here's some first thoughts, Badrock. I'm not really sure how well the Simcoe and Amarillo will work together. They are both very powerful flavors that, for me, are diametrically opposed. Simcoe is spicy and piney, while the Amarillo is floral and citrusey. The two together might muddy it up to a generic hop flavor.
Mylo

I just killed a keg last night of my IPA. It used a combination of Simcoe, Amarillo and Sorachi Ace. The flavors complemented each other very well. No generic hop flavor there. One of the best beers I have brewed in a long time. I don't think badrock will have any problem with the Simcoe/Amarillo combination.

While on the topic of hops for this beer, Badrock. Why didn't you first wort hop this beer? You trying to skimp on hop flavor?

Wayne
Bugeater Brewiing Company

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I'm with Bug on the Simcoe and the Amarillo. I did a Double IPA with a lot of both at late stages and the flavor and aroma was awesome.

[ChrisKennedy]

I am a HUGE fan of "diametrically opposed" hop flavors together in IPAs. I think they are critical to balance in an IPA. I find that the balance required for IPAs is not between hops and malt, but between bitterness and hop flavor, and between fruity hop flavors, danky hop flavors, piney hop flavors and such. I find the out and out fruity hopped beers, or piney hop beers to be less drinkable to some that have contrasting hop flavors.


Have you used Ringwood before? With all the hop flavors and hopefully the rye flavor, I myself would go for a clean ale yeast. I think too much yeast character can interfere with this beer rather than compliment it. Also, Ringwood can have diacetyl problems if you aren't careful.

[BadRock]

Have you used Ringwood before? With all the hop flavors and hopefully the rye flavor, I myself would go for a clean ale yeast. I think too much yeast character can interfere with this beer rather than compliment it. Also, Ringwood can have diacetyl problems if you aren't careful.

I have not used ringwood before, I think that's kind of why I want to try it. I figured if I keep it cool say 66F and the do a diacetyl rest towards the end of my fermentation I should be okay. I just liked the idea of a slight easter profile that might lend to this beer as well as highlight the malt characteristics. Plus I really like the idea of a highly flocculant yeast.

[Mylo]

Alright, I forgot that I am now a minority when it comes to hop additions. You hopheads go right ahead. Hell, while your at it - throw some Fuggles and Saaz in there... why not!

I'm just razzing you. Keep your pants off.

My only point is that because those are so far apart, I use them for different purposes. I also don't tend to make really hoppy beers anymore. They are both great all around hops for bitterness and for flavor.

Carry on.


Mylo

[Steelers&Beer]

BRB,
make sure you keep it cool with the Ringwood....the brewpub i go to all the time has that as his house yeast and says thats the key to using it.
Good luck.

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I'm sure I can find the answer somewhere else if I try, but is there a commercial beer using Ringwood available on the Eastcoast?