Hose Sizes in kegging?

Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:18 pm

Hey, Couple quick questions about hose size. Maybe i should have had a more discerning eye when shopping but as im piecing together all of my equipment, Some things have a smaller size (3/16?) nipple and some have a slightly larger size (1/4?). Mixed between gas and beer side. do most people Standardize hose size or use one for c02 and one for beer?

Thanks for your help guys!
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Re: Hose Sizes in kegging?

Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:03 pm

In general, you want 3/16" I.D. for the beer side. When you are trying to balance your system, this size will allow you to get by with only about 5' - 6' of beer line. If you go with 1/4" beer line you might need 15 to 20 feet at the same pressure and temperature. On the gas side it doesn't really matter. I use 1/4" nylon reinforced tubing from the big box home improvement place. It's cheap, won't blow up on you, and is pretty cheap.

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Re: Hose Sizes in kegging?

Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:21 pm

yes that's pretty normal. if i had a chance to do it over again i would just make everything (gas and beer) 3/16" to make tubes and threaded fittings universal.
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Re: Hose Sizes in kegging?

Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:31 pm

Just curious, Any reason why all 3/16 and not all 1/4?
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Re: Hose Sizes in kegging?

Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:35 pm

NovaBrew wrote:Just curious, Any reason why all 3/16 and not all 1/4?


Take a peek back at my earlier reply. The 3/16" will have much more resistance to flow than the 1/4". When you have what we call a balanced system you will have your CO2 regulator set somewhere around 10-12 psi depending on the temperature inside your kegerator. This will keep your beer at the proper carbonation level. If you try to pour the beer at that pressure, all you will get is foam. :shock: By adjusting the length of the beer line, the internal resistance to the flow of the beer will drop the pressure at the tap down to somewhere around a pound or so, depending on how you like the pour. Most of the time it takes around 5 feet of 3/16" line to get that perfect pour. I generally advise folks to start with about 6.5' of line and give it a try. If the pour is too slow, cut off a few inches. Keep doing that until it pours the way you want it. Cut off only a little at a time. You can always cut more off, but you can't glue a piece back on. Once you get one line cut right, you can go right to that length for any other taps.

This procedure gives you a perfectly balanced system and means you don't have to change the regulator pressure and bleed the keg whenever you pour a beer. My system is balanced like this and I only touch the regulator about once a year when I need to change out the CO2 tank. There are lots of charts and formulas for figuring out the right length, but I find that tubing will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer in terms of actual internal resistance, so all that computation will do is get you into the general ballpark, but you will still need to fine tune it like I said.

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Re: Hose Sizes in kegging?

Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:14 pm

Check out this pdf from 2010 NHC.
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/a ... aniels.pdf
Ray did a good job of simplifying the draft process.
I use 3 ft of 3/16 hose in my fridge.
The best way to balance things are to have a seperate CO2 regulator for each keg.
Good luck! :jnj
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Re: Hose Sizes in kegging?

Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:32 am

Bugeater and captin, Thanks alot! That PDF was actually really helpful. I'm starting to piece together my system and getting really close, wish i had this sooner. Well the main reason I was hoping to keep 1/4 for the gas side was that i have a 4 way Distro Manifold with all 1/4 fittings (input and all outputs). Ok so 3/16 for the whole system sounds like the way to go. Any way to convert my manifold without changing the fittings? Could I Neck down from 1/4 to 3/16 or Do I need to replace the fittings.

Is it important to keep the same distance line from the Manifold to each keg? or is it only important to have the same length line from keg to tap?

Thanks for all your help guys!
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Re: Hose Sizes in kegging?

Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:46 am

3/16 inch hose will fit on 1/4 inch barbs. Either run the hose under hot water to soften it up a bit, or put a little keg lube on the barb and you should be able to get it on there. And the gas line length from manifold to keg doesn't matter. Just give yourself a little extra length for manuevering lines, kegs, etc. around in your fridge.
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