Can you use Beer Gas with a Counter Pressure Bottle Filler?

Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:22 am

I'm submitting my first Oatmeal Stout into a competition this week and currently its carbonated with a C02/Nitrogen mix. Can I use the CPF with that mix or should I put it on regular C02 for a couple days and fill with it.

Thanks for the help
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Re: Can you use Beer Gas with a Counter Pressure Bottle Filler?

Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:03 am

NTabb wrote:I'm submitting my first Oatmeal Stout into a competition this week and currently its carbonated with a C02/Nitrogen mix. Can I use the CPF with that mix or should I put it on regular C02 for a couple days and fill with it.

Thanks for the help


Doubtful. If you could, don't you think Guinness would do it instead of having the widget?

Beer gas actually knocks carbonation out of beer, so I think if you tried to do that you'd end up with a very flat beer in competition.

But why don't you try it?

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Re: Can you use Beer Gas with a Counter Pressure Bottle Filler?

Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:54 pm

I've wondered the same thing to bottle a Scottish 70/- like the american Belhaven Scottish Ale that also has the widget.

I think you would probably be successful in bottling with the gas, the question is if it can yield the same experience.

The problem is serving it. When poured out on draft, the stout faucets have a little restricter disk that knocks a lot of gas out of the beer and gives you that texture. The widget tries to do the same thing by disturbing the beer just before you pour. So the key to that creamy texture will be to knock out the nitrogen while serving to get those very small bubbles. Different pouring techniques could probably get you close.
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Re: Can you use Beer Gas with a Counter Pressure Bottle Filler?

Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:08 pm

beltbuckle wrote:I've wondered the same thing to bottle a Scottish 70/- like the american Belhaven Scottish Ale that also has the widget.

I think you would probably be successful in bottling with the gas, the question is if it can yield the same experience.

The problem is serving it. When poured out on draft, the stout faucets have a little restricter disk that knocks a lot of gas out of the beer and gives you that texture. The widget tries to do the same thing by disturbing the beer just before you pour. So the key to that creamy texture will be to knock out the nitrogen while serving to get those very small bubbles. Different pouring techniques could probably get you close.


Gas is gas when it comes to CPBF.... but beergas is more expensive. There is no benefit to it. Nitrogen is not very soluable in water (beer). It's just there to deliver the pressure needed to force the beer through the restrictor plate. The widget simulates the draft head by shooting a tiny stream of bubbles down into the beer. No widget, no faucet - no creamy head.


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