Re: 100% brett

Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:17 am

I brewed a Santification Clone on January 1st. I had a lot of help from Vinnie. He suggested starting in the high 60's and letting it free rise into the seventies. Here is one of the emails he sent me with the recipe.

Derek,

Thanks for your e-mail and thanks for the kind words.

You could easily homebrew this beer at home as it is fermented in stainless steel and none of it goes into oak barrels. I don’t have an exact homebrew recipe though I think Brew Your Own has done some variations of the recipe though I don’t know which issue.

Here are some basics:

85% 2-row Malt
5% Vienna Malt
5% Wheat Malt
5% Acidulated Malt

OG: 1.058
TG: 1.006-1.010
ABV: 6.25%
BU’s: 25ish

Hops:
Styrian Golding 90 minute – beginning of boil
Sterling 15 minutes to go in boil

The yeast is a mix of Brettanomyces and bacteria’s.
50% Brett Brux.
10% Brett Claus.
10% Brett Lambicus
30% Russian River Brewing “Funky Bunch” house yeast culture- mix of Brett, Lacto, Pedio, & other wild yeast

The RRBC house culture we call the “Funky Bunch” could be cultured from a bottle of Beatification which is out on the market now. In Napa, JV Liquor is getting their delivery of Beatification on Monday.

You’ll see a long lag phase at the start of fermentation and then a slowing of fermentation when it gets to 1.020, from there it has to sit for a couple of months before it gets down to the gravity listed above. Depending on if you bottle or not you will need to make a decision on the final gravity. If you do bottle it has to be bottled at 1.010 or so, but, not above that or the bottles will over carbonate and the bottles might explode.

Good luck,

Vinnie


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Re: 100% brett

Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:18 pm

I did bottle a beer femented in the secondary with Brett B. and it did form a pellicle in the bottles. I do believe I bottled it a little too soon. STill tasted great though and continues to get better!


Just had Santification last week at the brewery and it was awesome. Very drinkable...
Did Vinnie mention anything about aeration before primary began?
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Re: 100% brett

Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:56 pm

brewinhard wrote:I did bottle a beer femented in the secondary with Brett B. and it did form a pellicle in the bottles. I do believe I bottled it a little too soon. STill tasted great though and continues to get better!


Just had Santification last week at the brewery and it was awesome. Very drinkable...
Did Vinnie mention anything about aeration before primary began?


I just went throught the emails and didn't find anything on aeration. When I did mine I oxygenated for aobut 1 min. I am bottling this weekend, I will keep you updated.
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Re: 100% brett

Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:47 pm

Please do as I am very interested in finding out how things went. In your post Vinnie refers to a slow lag time and I am wondering if that was because he did NOT aerate at first, but who knows?
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Re: 100% brett

Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:11 pm

Check out The Mad Fermentationist. He has tried replicating Mo Betta Bretta (100% Brett) a couple of times and has done a number of brett experiments. Here are some links to get you started:

http://madfermentationist.blogspot.com/ ... retta.html

http://madfermentationist.blogspot.com/ ... tta-2.html

He talked a lot about it on a couple of Basic Brewing Radio shows. I think the general consensus was that the character that he wanted was best obtained by not aerating and by letting it ferment hot. Hope that helps some.
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Re: 100% brett

Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:51 am

brewinhard wrote:Please do as I am very interested in finding out how things went. In your post Vinnie refers to a slow lag time and I am wondering if that was because he did NOT aerate at first, but who knows?


I don't think so because as I stated I oxygenated and I had a about a 4 day lag.

I know the title of your post is "100% Brett" but the beer does have some Pedio and Lacto in it. You will not get the slight sourness that Sanctification has without them. I cultured from 3 bottles of Beatification. When I tasted it, it was good but not as sour as Sanctification. We'll see what happens once it's bottled and carbonated.
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Re: 100% brett

Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:02 am

I recall from a brewstrong, or jamil show, or session, that for "bretty" characters, it was better to let them struggle.... if you gave them a ton of oxygen, you would get something a lot cleaner than you might anticipate - and then you will probably be up for a lengthy aging regime to get the profile you're looking for.

^ take this with a shaker of salt. Who knows what was really said.

good luck, keep us posted. I'm very curious about this.
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Re: 100% brett

Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:14 pm

Dmac,

HOw long have you let the primary go for? Did you bottle right out of a lengthy primary? A four day lag time seems long, unless you didn't pitch that big of a brett starter...
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