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Cider 2010

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Re: Cider 2010

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:07 pm
by San_Diego_Matt
I don't follow?

The cider I have access to is fresh pressed and unpasteurized. If I ferment some, it will stay that way and all I'll add is some pectic enzyme

Re: Cider 2010

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:09 pm
by HopRunner
San_Diego_Matt wrote:I don't follow?

The cider I have access to is fresh pressed and unpasteurized. If I ferment some, it will stay that way and all I'll add is some pectic enzyme
Doh, Reading skills damaged by three pints of Oatmeal Stout. Sorry!

Re: Cider 2010

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:07 am
by ipaisay2.0
$7.75 a gallon especially for a homebrew club that is going to hopefully buy a lot, is steep! Fresh pressed cider here in NY is $4.75-5.25.

I would have them at the very least pass the cider through a UV light. That why you can control your fermentation a little better with your yeast of choice.

Re: Cider 2010

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:12 pm
by TimmyR
From last year's batch 1, I have NO problem with low pH and acidic...I just got back from UK and really enjoyed draft Aspall's Cider...it was nice and dry, but not as tart as my first attempt. More to follow on my 3-batch series.

Re: Cider 2010

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:10 am
by TimmyR
Update:
Batch #1: 1.050 --> 1.030 and racked to secondary
Batch #2: 1.058 (calculated): 1 lb brown sugar and about 6 gallons of cider on dregs of Batch #1; planning to rack to secondary on top of 3.1 lbs of Blackberry Puree and estimate that will bring OG up to 1.075.

Does 1.075 sound right? I used 45.0 oe for OG in lbs per gallon in BeerTools...that seems a little high.

Re: Cider 2010

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:47 am
by TimmyR
Looks like from looking at wine recipes, maybe 30 points, per pound per gallon is more accurate for Oregon Fruit Puree...

Re: Cider 2010

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:34 am
by derfburg
Going today to get Pears to do our own Peary. Old orchard, 80 yo trees. Anyone have a good or decent Peary recipe?

Re: Cider 2010

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:38 am
by thatguy314
derfburg wrote:Going today to get Pears to do our own Peary. Old orchard, 80 yo trees. Anyone have a good or decent Peary recipe?


This is just off the top of my head but... pear juice and yeast? Seriously though, cider pears are the only thing harder to find than cider apples. Common perry just uses usual eating pears, which may or may not be the best for fermentation. I would try to find the bitterest, most tannic pears you can find, and ferment those with a wine or cider yeast. Adjust with acid, and wine tannin if necessary. When you're done you can sorbate and back sweeten, but then you can only carb it if you're force-carbing. Alternatively, you could use an artificial sweetner (sacharin, sucrulose) to sweeten it up a bit and then use sugar to carbonate it. It works in beers, I don't know why it wouldn't work in cider.

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