Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:52 pm

worms, there is probably way more than enough O2 present in your average wort for all the non-sterol related bioprocesses.
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Here is a link to the PDF thesis.
http://www.brewcrazy.com/hull-olive-oil-thesis.pdf
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:33 pm

I boil 1 drop in 1 cup of water. Cool it down and add 1 drop of that mixture to my starter. Works everytime.
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:30 pm

bub wrote:Here is a link to the PDF thesis.
http://www.brewcrazy.com/hull-olive-oil-thesis.pdf
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only a 32 page thesis???? i wonder if that is the shortest master's thesis ever written. I wonder why he didn't explore other oils. Like why is it olive oil that works...would canola or vegtable be better? what about walmart brand olive oil versus rare italian olive oils. If all these experiments were carried out in a lab it would be quite easy to set up multiple cultures with various types of oils and to be able to add them in such micro quantities.

good information non the less....Until i'm brewing 300 hL batches, i'll stick to oxygen (and yes i do have a pipet that can deliver a single uL)
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:23 pm

Beermaker wrote:I boil 1 drop in 1 cup of water. Cool it down and add 1 drop of that mixture to my starter. Works everytime.


How long did you boil?
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Re: Olive Oil Aeration plus Rant

Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:03 pm

dragonhlm wrote:I was very interested in what Urbain was saying about Olive Oil Aeration. After a lot of forum searches I ran across this little gem: http://www.brewcrazy.com/podcast/BrewCrAzY-07-11-01.mp3
I downloaded the file and really tried to fight through to the end.
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"I'm Jonney Mack I have a dog who may have a boat? Cackle, Cackle, Cackle..... Olive Oil... Cackle, Cackle, Cackle..... one drop in a quart jar....Cackle, Cackle, Cackle.... and one drop from that into your starter....Cackle, Cackle, Cackle..... Big beers may benefit.... Cackle, Cackle, Cackle..."


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If you get BYO, the next issue should have a feature article on olive oil additions to your yeast starter. It may answer a few questions. I had them edit out all the Crackles for you. LOL

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Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:24 pm

numsquat wrote:
Beermaker wrote:I boil 1 drop in 1 cup of water. Cool it down and add 1 drop of that mixture to my starter. Works everytime.


How long did you boil?


Typically, I bring it to a boil for 5 minutes or so, just to get good sterility and to emulsify the oil a bit.
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:28 pm

dragonhlm wrote:With the Olive Oil providing the sterols. I wonder if this would work for a stuck fermentation where you wouldn't want to re aerate the wort?


I am testing this right now as a matter of fact. I heard the show and ran home and put WAY too much in my wort (6 drops). Before doing that I read all I could and came to the conclusion that the New Belgian tests were crap... which is where most people are getting their data about a fraction of a drop.

My fermentation of a saison had slowed to a crawl by day two... I needed to rouse it twice a day to keep it going. Around day four I added the oil... now it has been going non-stop for 24 hours.

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